What We're Reading ~ 3/20/19

T. Rowe Price: The Man, The Company & The Investment Philosophy [Cornelius Bond]

How to take the outside view [McKinsey]

Pitch on short Tesla [Dropbox]

What is Amazon [Zack Kanter]

Allen Zhang on the key product principles of WeChat [WeChat]

KKR is too cheap [Yet Another Value Blog]

Buying is easy, selling is hard [Bloomberg]

In 12 minutes, everything went wrong: LionAir crash [NYTimes]

The SaaS busines model & metrics [Matrix Partners]

How an app for gamers went mainstream [The Atlantic]

The risk of low growth stocks: Prestige Brands [Intrinsic Investing]

Franchise value: video game IP vs movie IP [Medium]

The 20 craziest investment facts ever [Irrelevant Investor]

Netflix is the most intoxicating portal [NYTimes]

Farmbelt bankruptcies are soaring [WSJ]

ESPN's ex-President wants to build the Netflix of sports [Bloomberg]

Inside HBO's plan to win the streaming wars [Vanity Fair]

Interview with Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey [Rolling Stone]

Greenlight Capital Q3 Letter: Sold Apple, Still Short Tesla

David Einhorn's hedge fund Greenlight Capital has had a rough 2018.  They're now down 25.7% for the year.  During the quarter, they exited the last of their longstanding Apple (AAPL) position at $228 per share. 

They feel their AAPL thesis that was once differentiated has now become consensus and the valuation of 17x forward earnings is "much less enticing and we are somewhat worried about Chinese retaliation against America's trade policies."

Greenlight also continues to be bearish on Tesla and noted many similarities to Lehman Brothers before its collapse.  They also highlighted CEO Elon Musk's erratic behavior.  There's numerous paragraphs about TSLA in the letter below.


Greenlight New Longs: Altice USA and BT Group

In other notable portfolio activity, they initiated two new longs: Altice USA (ATUS) and BT Group. 

ATUS they acquired at $18.38 and view it as a discounted play on cable peers in the US.  They feel the company has better cashflow conversion and more investment opportunities than rivals. 

BT Group they purchased at £2.19 and feel that shares were cheap at 4.7x EV/EBITDA and an 8% dividend yield. 

They also covered their 11 year short in Martin Marietta Materials (MLM) and covered another short: TransDigm Group (TDG). 

Also, they sold out of their Micron (MU) position and exited their Mylan (MYL) stake as well.


Greenlight Capital's Q3 Letter

Embedded below is Greenlight Capital's Q3 Letter:



For more recent hedge fund commentary, check out Bill Ackman's new long Starbucks SBUX presentaiton.

Kase Learning Short Selling Conference Presentations 2018

Whitney Tilson recently launched a new investment conference focused on short selling called the Kase Learning Short Selling Conference.  They've released some videos of pitches from the presentations and we've aggregated them here along with notes from each talk if you just want a quick summary.

Click each link below to go to the presentation.


Kase Learning Short Selling Conference Presentations 2018

- Sahm Adrangi (Kerrisdale Capital): On ad fraud and Quinstreet (QNST)

- Mark Spiegel (Stanphyl Capital): Short Tesla (TSLA)

- Gabriel Grego (Quintessential Capital): Short Folli Follie

- Jillian McIntyre (221B Capital): Short Intelsat (I)

- Berna Barshay (Viola Capital): Short Ralph Lauren (RL)

- Enrique Abeyta: Short Anheuser Busch InBev (BUD)

- Chris Brown (Aristides Capital): Short Energous (WATT)

- Asher Jacobs & Jade Hu (Columbia MBAs): Short Stericycle (SRCL)

Mark Spiegel Short Tesla Presentation: Kase Learning Conference

We're posting up a series of presentations from the recent Kase Learning Short Selling Conference.  Next up is Mark Spiegel who pitched short Tesla (TSLA).  He thinks the company is a zero.


Mark Spiegel's Presentation: Short Tesla (TSLA)

- Telsa's financials are horrible and has no moat of any kind, and this is all before a ton of competition comes online

- Management can't be trusted after Elon Musk made misleading statements

- Lost over $25,000 per car sold based on recent earnings.  Sales of two top models were down double digits year-over-year, again this is before top competition comes online from Porsche, Jaguar and others

- $2.3 billion in negative net working capital, And - $1bn in negative net working capital.  Bulls point to the story being about 'the future' but Tesla's tax credits will expire later this year while competitors will just be starting to use their credits.

- Competition coming:  Jaguar I-Pace coming out is $10,000 less and much nicer.  Jaguar XJ Sedan also going electric.  Audi electric SUV coming 2018 winter and priced $5000 cheaper once Tesla's tax credit runs out.  Porsche's Mission E sedan coming.  Mercedes' ECQ coming out and electric version of the S Class.  Hyundai coming out with a crossover for the mass market.  Chevrolet Bolt out now.  Nissan Leaf next year increases electric range.  First electric Volvo comes out next year.  BMW iX3 comes out in 2 years, and i4 flagship electric car.  The list goes on and on.

-  China is a big market and very important; bulls think TSLA will gain share there but the reality is that so much competition is coming especially in that country that they've already lost

-  Other car companies using larger battery cells and Tesla is committed to smaller, inferior ones

-  Stunning number of executive departures.  Jim Chanos said the only two companies that had similar numbers are Enron and Valeant

Embedded below is the video of Mark Spiegel's presentation:




Be sure to check out the rest of the presentations from the Kase Learning Short Selling Conference.

Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger & Bill Gates Interview

Today on CNBC, Berkshire Hathaway's Warren Buffett was interviewed by Becky Quick and talked about a range of topics.  Charlie Munger and Bill Gates later joined the conversation.  Here's some takeaways and quotes:


Warren Buffett's Thoughts

On the market: Stocks aren't in a bubble now.  Though said some private deal valuations are getting high and it's harder to find bargains these days.

On the economy:  Thinks the economy has picked up steam. "Yeah, I see a lot of numbers (from all BRK's businesses).  Business is generally pretty strong."  He cited railcar loadings, etc.  Also notes you've seen some inflation.

Says he thinks it's hard for unemployment to really go much lower as they have a ton of jobs available.  "If a resource is scarce, prices go up."  Says certain job lines are much harder to fill these days (construction cited specifically).

On potential trade wars:   "I don't think we will have trade wars of significance."  He thinks there will be trade movements though.  Says a trade war with China would be negative for all involved as they have a common interest.

On Amazon / Jeff Bezos:  Still laments not buying it in the past, says what Bezos has done is incredible.

On moats: Cited iPhones, Costco, and Elmer's glue as examples

On Apple: Says he doesn't have to do anything because the company will buyback so many shares, so his ownership stake will go up naturally.  He recently bought a ton more AAPL shares.  Said he currently owns around 5% of the company but he'd like to own 100% of it.  The consumer behavior was the main driver behind his ownership, as the device has woven itself into consumer's daily lives and minds, and it's a very useful product.

On owning banks:  Has owned one in the past and loves the banking business but doesn't want to now because of the bank holding co act.  Says Wells Fargo (WFC) was slow to act in addressing bad actions but still has a fundamentally solid business.

On bitcoin:  Compared it to the tulip bubble years ago.  Says it's a non-productive asset and just sits there.

On autonomous vehicles: 'Net it will be bad for the car insurance industry if autonomous vehicles become the norm.'  It will be very hard to pick winners in 5 years.

On reading he recommends, Buffett again pointed to Chapter 8 of The Intelligent Investor.  But this time around he also recommended Chapter 4 of Steven Pinker's new book, Enlightenment Now.

Ends his interview by reiterating: "It's very important in life to associate yourself with people that are better than you."


Charlie Munger's Thoughts

On the biggest thing he and Buffett have disagreed on:  Munger wanted to buy the French stake in Costco.  Buffett didn't and says he should have.  "Charlie really wants to wait for the fat pitch."

Munger said, "There's a million ways to be irrational." And while Berkshire makes mistakes, they make them far less frequently than others and he thinks that's their main advantage.

Munger noted: "The Munger family is invested in China substantially.  Since about 14 years ago, and I did it because I respected the man that was going to do the investing (Li Lu) and it looked undervalued and the companies looked very strong."  Today, he says the best companies in China are still cheaper than the best companies in the US.  "I don't think it'd be all that hard for people to find 4 or 5 companies in China to invest in."

He also said he wished Berkshire owned more of Apple.  He likes that it's reasonably priced and strong, a 'very desireable combination' as well as 'very intelligent management.'

On bitcoin, Munger called it worthless artificial gold.  "It's a scumball activity."

On potential trade wars with China: "It would be insane for them not to work together."

On what he's been reading recently:  A book by a Chinese economist, though he didn't mention the name specifically.


Bill Gates' Thoughts

He said that "T-bills set the rules" and he pointed out that since the 10-year yields 3%, you've got that hurdle to get over by taking more risk.  He says asset class returns will be lower over the next 10 years.

On bitcoin: There's some really good technology as far as sharing databases etc, but the coin itself is a speculative thing.  He received some for his birthday a while back but sold it, so doesn't own it now.  Called it a greater fool investment, and said he'd short it if there was an easy way to do so.

Gates says there are tech stocks that are undervalued, but you're going to get very high variance as the winner in some markets gets a high share of the profit pool.

He owns a ton of Microsoft (MSFT) obviously, but revealed he has a 'fantasy stock portfolio' of companies he thinks will do well but doesn't own.  "The top tech companies have a very strong share of the profit pool right now."  He obviously declined to reveal names.

Gates also echoed Munger's China sentiment that it looked attractive.

On tech and data privacy, thinks regulation is inevitable.  But the big companies will handle that.

On Tesla (TSLA): thinks they have a great product but a very high valuation and a lot of competition coming.  Says autonomous and electric vehicles are coming simultaneously and thinks 15 years from now things will be very different.

On what he's been reading recently:  Hans Rosling's book Factfulness.  Says it helps you think about a lot of different things in the world.

Jim Chanos Bearish on Quick Service Industry, Pharmacy Benefit Management, Tesla

Short seller Jim Chanos of Kynikos Associates recently sat down with CNBC for an interview.  Here's a summary along with video and the transcript.

On healthcare:  He thinks the new tax bill will cause the healthcare industry to see deflation.  "We've been looking at the rent-seeking companies, companies that we think have existed on the periphery of the healthcare economy that basically have went after these pricing sort of gamesmanship models.  And we think that's over. We think as the pie shrinks, it's going to be tougher and tougher to justify the ability of companies to hike drug prices 1,000% or charge commercial insurers five times what you charge medicare and medicaid in the case of dialysis ... We're still very negative on the PBM (pharmacy benefit management) space, Express Scripts (ESRX) came out and reaffirmed guidance, raise it this morning.  There's not reason for independent PBMs to exist, for example."


On Tesla (TSLA):  He's still short.  He thinks the company's equity is worth zero and other competitors are ahead of them in terms of autonomy for self-driving cars (citing Waymo, Audi, and others).  Says the problem is that the company can just keep raising capital and if that train keeps going then it's an issue.  But he's still very bearish on the company and sees the CEO Elon Musk as a bit of a showman constantly using hype, press releases and product launches. 


On fast food:  "I'd be short pretty much anybody in the quick service industry besides McDonalds.  MCD still calls the tune.  They're the 6 billion pound gorilla, so to speak.  They just went to a new value menu a few weeks ago, which always impacts the industry.  It's a dog fight."

He points to the companies' transition to the asset light model in the space.  He singled out Restaurant Brands (QSR), the owner of Burger King and Tim Hortons, which has been a hedge fund favorite.  He says while these companies are getting higher multiples for running an asset light model, look at how the franchisee is doing because the restaurants themselves still have to perform.  These restaurants are being hit with higher royalty rates and rising costs, so they're starting to struggle. 


On retail:  Chanos said they had a lot of exposure to the "well known shorts" in the retail industry but has covered them so they only have small exposure in that sector right now.  They think it will be a decent Christmas holiday shopping season so he'll probably re-examine them as they bounce into 2018.

Embedded below is Jim Chanos' interview with CNBC:

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You can also read the full transcript here.

Stan Druckenmiller Interview: Likes Amazon & Tencent, Short Retail

CNBC's Kelly Evans recently interviewed legendary investor Stan Druckenmiller, who previously worked with George Soros and then started his own firm Duquesne (which he now runs as a family office).

Regarding interest rates, he says he wants to see normalization, not so much just rates rising, as he noted there's a difference between the two.  The former, he says, is about re-establishing a hurdle rate for investment.

"Bitcoin, art, wine, equities, credit... you name it.  Everything is one way up.  And there's huge distortions taking place and it's all in the name of this 2% inflation target. And when you get a misallocation of resources, it really hinders growth over the longer term."

He notes there's companies out there borrowing tons of money that shouldn't be and gave Steinhoff as an example (which he mentioned he had been short).

He doesn't own any bitcoin as he says he trades only what he knows.  "It's worth what people are willing to pay for it."

This year, Druckenmiller says he's done well in stocks but he's really mistraded macro.  "I'm not up double digits.  I'm having, relative to the opportunity set, a terrible year."  He's had a bad time in currency trading apparently but his excellent equities returns have bailed him out, so to speak.

Turning to equities for 2018, he doesn't buy the narrative that this is all about earnings.  He says it's all about central bank radicalism.

But for specific stocks, he really likes the stocks he owns long-term.  There's a lot of disruption going on in tech.  He's also been short retail throughout the year and he expects that theme to continue.

On the long side: "I love Amazon (AMZN).  This company, which everyone keeps quoting the multiple... is selling for less than 3x sales.  They're dramatically underearning.  You have to look at the long-term earnings power of the company.  I think (CEO Jeff) Bezos is incredible."

In China, Druckenmiller really likes Tencent (700.HK) as they're in payments, videos, cloud, gaming, and a huge platform (WeChat).  Like AMZN, they're also underearning and trading at 40x with a 40% growth rate, he says you're getting it at 1x growth rate.

Regarding Tesla (TSLA), he said he doesn't like to short great products (he gave himself one for his birthday a while back).  He questions the long-term financial model of the company, though.

On Apple (AAPL), he doesn't find it as exciting as AMZN, Facebook (FB), or Alphabet (GOOG).  He thinks AAPL might be overearning and doesn't own it but isn't short either.  He likes Workday (WDAY) as it fits into the new economy.

He doesn't think tax reform will impact the stock market as it's already priced in and anyways he feels the market is driven by central bank policy anyways.

Embedded below is the video of CNBC's full interview with Stan Druckenmiller:

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You can also read the full transcript of the interview here.

What We're Reading ~ 11/29/17

Lessons from a legendary short seller [CFA Institute]

How to be a CEO, from a decade's worth of them [NYTimes]

Elon Musk: the architect of tomorrow [Rolling Stone]

A conversation with David Swensen [CFR]

The future of retail in the age of Amazon [Fast Company]

Are malls too cheap to ignore? [WSJ]

Inside the revolution at Etsy [NYTimes]

The two biggest risks now are China and inflation [Bloomberg]

How decades of bad decisions broke GE [CNN Money]

What does a flat yield curve mean for stocks? [StockCharts]

Notes From Capitalize For Kids Conference 2017: Einhorn, Dreyfus & More

The 2017 Capitalize For Kids Conference recently took place and featured hedge fund managers sharing investment ideas to benefit charity to help solve challenges in children's brain and mental health.  Below are notes from some of the speakers' presentations:


Capitalize For Kids Conference Notes 2017


David Einhorn, Greenlight Capital: Presentation

-  Approaches the market from a bottoms-up perspective and is still finding cheap stocks to buy, both on a relative and absolute basis. Greenlight is always net long and is currently operating within its average exposure.

-  Despite 8+ years of underperformance by “value” investors, believes over time value investing outperforms momentum and growth investing. Believes these trends are cyclical/seasonal but does not know when this will end.

-  Has kept the same “playbook” his whole career, does not believe he has the capability to change this. Will go through market periods where people view him a smarter than he is and then also have periods where is looked at dumber than he is.

-  Look for a margin of safety within individual investments, if the thesis is wrong, would like to “break-even or the stock is dead money”, but if a little bit right or mostly right, should be rewarded.

-  If he thinks he is wrong on a position, he will exit right away, however if he is still holding on (to a mark to market loss), he will keep on fighting. If large losses are realized, he fundamentally misunderstood what was going on in the business.

-  Two big losses: SunEdison (most recently) and New Century (in 2009-10) – almost lost 100% on each

-  One of the big advantages available in the market is time arbitrage (since institutional investors only care about 6-12 months) and there is a good amount of opportunities available where the main advantage is greater patience

-  On the short side, generally doesn’t short on valuation, usually needs deteriorating business model with large headwinds. He created the bubble basket in 2013 (to short ~40 stocks on valuation basis).

-  He approached this very simply. Looked at I/S and B/S and valued the business (without looking at the business model/etc. to remove the “story”). If the value estimate was 10% or less of current market value, he would short it). Has made money on most of the shorts (15-20 still remain active).

-  He is still short Tesla (TSLA), Amazon (AMZN), Netflix (NFLX), Athenahealth (ATHN). Still likes these shorts

-  Does not view himself as an activist. He might recommend things to management over time if they want advice or if they had a really good idea.

-  For General Motors (GM), he thought the dual class shares pitch was a really good idea, however, they were outplayed by General Motors management with their force of consultants, proxy advisors,lawyers, public relations etc. – wants to remain quiet now but still believes the idea makes sense.  General Motors is largest long position.

-  Active vs. Passive: In a momentum market, passive will work better as most indices are market cap weighted and index buys more of what’s doing well. Overtime, there is value to be had with active investors. From the GM proxy battle, he had to work with many index proxy managers and was very difficult (poor alignment of interests, index doesn’t care if stock goes up/down)

-  Doesn’t like cryptocurrency, too volatile to be store of value.  Doesn’t do much macro but likes natural gas and gold and is also short Germany/France sovereign debt (negative yields!).

If you missed it, you can also view David Einhorn's Greenlight Capital Q3 letter here, as well as Einhorn's presentation at GIBI Dallas Conference as well.



Dan Dreyfus, 3G Capital: Long Wheaton Precious Metals (WPM)

-  Long Wheaton Precious Metals:  Shares are down 61% since peak in 2011; Believes without movement in commodity price

-  Three steps to get back to mid-$40 or so versus $20 current stock price:  Resolve near-term creating overhang $25, Realize value of hidden assets $35, Upside from normalizing of gold/silver ratio,  $45

-  Business model is very simple: help finance mines for E&Ps. Typically, E&Ps can finance a mine two ways: Equity (very expensive) or Debt (add covenants; and difficulties/risk of losing asset).  Streaming allows them to sell stake upfront and Wheaton can buy committee straight from the company at a reduced price. Upside for the streaming is that the upside is free (from production and commodity price)

-  Streaming companies have massively outperformed gold miners since 2010. Streaming companies do not face any of the risks miners face (geopolitical, regulatory, delays, cost inflation, etc.)

-  Step 1 - Two outstanding issues; $5 per share of value:  CRA Audit – thinks it’ll settle for a low amount sometime in the next 6-9 months. The company is being looked into as it setup a foreign subsidiary to accept foreign profits.  San Dimas Stream: Owner of the mine is about to go bankrupt, asset will survive (stream is at asset level, doesn’t matter who the owner is); despite current owner having difficulties

-  Step 2: Exceptional Growth (hidden assets) - $10 per share of value.  Wheaton has a lot of production currently and has hidden productions assets on their balance sheet (on the verge of being developed). No capex required to increase production (one of the pros of streaming companies).  Demand of precious metals is still important; copper for city development, electric vehicles; Rosemont/Salobo II mines development to Wheaton has the silver stream for Pascua-Lama, very important project for Barrick Gold.

-  Step 3: re-rate of Silver - $10 per share of value.  Gold:silver ratio at all-time high for gold, however thinks due to cyclical reasons silver demand should rebound driven by solar, industrial demand, etc.  All of these steps can happen very soon.



Jimmy Levin, Oz Management: Long Altaba (AABA)

-  The market is at all-time highs on a relative and absolute basis.  Oz Management looks for investments where they can make money on.

-  Long pitch: Altaba (AABA):  This is a holding company whose main asset is Alibaba (BABA) stock, along with some other assets (like Yahoo Japan).  It trades at a 33% discount to NAV.  Management is incentivized to close the discount between market value and NAV. How quick the discount is closed, as well as how much it closes by is important for compensation targets.  Management is also buying stock (cash source from selling assets) in order to help close the discount

-  Believes the best outcome is the vehicle trades at 1x NAV, which makes sense for an asset of this nature. On the other hand, hard to lose money especially if you are short Alibaba to hedge out systematic risk.

-  Risks include: Mark to Market losses, Both Altaba and its largest holdings are publicly traded, and hence the discount may fluctuate

-  Upside could be: Tax policy; lower corporate tax will help (excess money comes to shareholders), market rumors are that Alibaba will buy back units from Altaba (could help realize value very quickly.)



Brandon Osten, Venator Capital: Long EnerCom

-  Venator is about $200 million in assets; with two strategies (L/S and income)

-  Long Entercom (leader of old school radio, radio is #1 in terms of ROI for advertisers)

-  Earlier in 2017, Entercom agreed to reserve take-over CBS Radio (second largest radio operator in the U.S.), but it was underutilized/under-managed operation. Also, there is FTC deregulation which they could benefit from.o Once transaction closes, float should also increase notably.

-  Radio is #1 in terms of ROI for advertisers (cheap production and local content); listenership is stable and listening hours are also stable.

-  Strong management team with ability to increase margins and a track record of FCF generation and balance sheet deleveraging.

-  CBS assets are solid – strong stations in top markets, sports based; size and scale

-  This vehicle will be family controlled (Field Family) and they have purchased shares via open market since May 2017

-  Estimates 2% revenue growth through 2019, 1% thereafter, 34% EBITDA margin; 25% Tax rate with some buybacks. Believes the stock is worth $16.00 (compared to $11 stock price today).



Jeffrey Olin, Vision Capital: Long General Growth Properties (GGP)

-  Vision Capital, focused on real estate that are publicly traded (both long and short). Have achieved a return of 14% CAGR over the past 10 years (notably beating all relevant indices).  They try to buy real estate that is cheaper/(short more expensive) in the market vs. in private market.

-  GGP owns 100 of the top 500 regional malls in the U.S., Dividend yield of 4.13%

-  Largest shareholder is Brookfield Asset Management (BAM), which owns 34% of shares and has recently bought more.

-  Three reasons to buy the stock: Great Real Estate, Discount to NAV (30%), Various catalysts to close the gap

-  GGP owns a large amount of high quality real estate

-  From a valuation perspective, there is good precedent transactions which support the claim of 30%discount to NAV

-  Regarding catalysts, things such as: good financial performance, improvement of real estate, potential M&A or asset sales to support valuation comps.

-  Brookfield Asset Management could also buy them out given already high ownership.



Check back soon as we'll also be posting the actual slide decks .pdf's of other speakers from the Capitalize For Kids Conference as well.


For even more recent investment conference coverage, we've also posted up the following:

- Notes from Sohn San Francisco Conference (Okada, McGuire & more)

- Notes from GIBI Dallas Conference (Ackman, Einhorn, Russo)

Notes From Great Investors Best Ideas Conference (GIBI) Dallas 2017: Ackman, Einhorn & More

The 11th annual Great Investors Best Ideas (GIBI) Dallas Investment Symposium just took place where managers shared investment ideas to benefit The Michael J. Fox Foundation for Parkinson's Research and Vickery Meadow Youth Development Foundation.  Below are some brief notes on the event:


Notes From GIBI Dallas Conference 2017

David Einhorn, Greenlight Capital

Still owns a huge position in General Motors (GM) but has been trimming it since it's grown too large (risk management, position sizing, etc).  Still his largest position by a longshot though.  Still thinks it's very cheap and points to an opportunity for a new shareholder base to get into shares.  Likes they've gotten rid of its riskiest international business and is investing in autonomous cars and electric vehicles: the future.

He also likes Tempur Sealy (TPX).  Thinks estimates are way too low (notes that management's incentives are way higher).  The company had a dispute with Mattress Firm and stopped selling its mattresses there.  Despite that, customers still actively sought out the TempurPedic brand, so the co is replacing its lost Mattress Firm sales elsewhere at higher margins.  Thinks there's also a reasonable chance MF comes back to them since MF has lost sales.

Einhorn said that his 'bubble basket' of shorts in highflying tech stocks like Amazon and Tesla are valued like profits don't matter ... ever.  He says eventually people will wake up and profits will matter and their stocks will crater.  He also pointed to somewhat of a cult following status that is attached to Tesla's stock with all the hype that Elon Musk continuously builds with various projects.  There's around 30 stocks in Einhorn's bubble basket.   He noted he owns a Tesla, but also points out that the company probably lost $20-30k selling it.  Says company hasn't figured out how to make cars profitable on a unit basis.  You can also read Greenlight Capital's Q2 letter here.


Bill Ackman, Pershing Square Capital

Pitched his newest long: Automatic Data Processing (ADP).  Has an activist position.  Thinks it's a quality business: simple, not capital intensive, secular tailwinds (sees lots of growth ahead).  Automating employees.  Ackman thinks the stock's a double.  We've posted Ackman's presentation on ADP previously.

Also mentioned the GSEs he's involved with: Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac.  Still owns and thinks there's huge upside there.  He originally pitched these plays three years ago at the same conference.  Thinks they will eventually trade multiples higher of where they are now.

He's still short Herbalife (HLF) and has lost millions on the bet as the stocks' up around 40% from his average short price.  Said that of the risk factors considered for the position, Carl Icahn coming in and buying 20+% of the company wasn't one he considered.

Noted he still owns Howard Hughes (HHC) and while he doesn't see any immediate catalysts, thinks it's a long-term play as a high quality business.

Says average investor can be plenty concentrated with 10-15 holdings.  Biggest mistake of his career?  Not selling when new information emerged that didn't jive with his investment thesis.  You can read Pershing Square's Q2 letter here.



Tom Russo. Gardner Russo Gardner

Spoke about global brands and various companies still controlled by the founding families.  His best idea was the company hit with a scandal and PR crisis: Wells Fargo (WFC).  Previously he had noted how his WFC stake has remain unchanged (around 6% of his assets) and that he thought the company simply became too fixated singly on one variable (cross-selling) which lead to a bunch of accounts being opened in customers names.  The company now suffers from poor optics but on a risk level, direct financial harm has been modest and he has faith in the legal process.



Andrew Wellington, Lyrical Asset Management

A couple of picks:  Flex Ltd (FLEX), co is seeing double digit growth in its bottom line and 50% of FCF going to shareholders.  Trading around 12x earnings.

Affiliated Managers Group (AMG): asset management play, owns equity stakes in boutique management firms.  Says they own really good managers.  Trading around 12x NTM earnings.



Van Hoisington, Wasatch-Hoisington US Treasury Fund

He concluded that we're heading to a recession as the Fed has restrictive policies already in effect and money and credit are slowing noticeably.  Structural impediments to growth are over-indebtedness globally as well as adverse demographics.  Thinks rates will stay lower. 



Jeanie Wyatt, South Texas Money Management

A few ideas: Citigroup (C) as a value play.  Thinks it could re-rate from almost 1x book value to closer to 1.4x.  Since the crisis the company has a better situation and less subprime.

KAR Auction Services (KAR):  notes 20% EPS growth, end markets that are accelerating as well.  Trading just over 22x next year's earnings but with a big opportunity ahead as various leases will be coming to term.

Electronic Arts (EA): video game stock that's benefited from going over the top (OTT) as it leads to higher margins than the typical video game distribution model of physical games, etc.  Accelerating sales growth.  Also sees new potential upside in e-sports. 

Vodafone (VOD): Stock has traded sideways but the company has improved in end markets.  Thinks it offers good downside protection as sales growth has accelerated.


For more stock picks from recent investment conferences, we posted up notes from the Sohn San Francisco Conference yesterday.

What We're Reading ~ 10/4/17

The Four: The hidden DNA of Amazon, Apple, Facebook & Google [Scott Galloway]

The main fundamental skills of all investing [Collaborative Fund]

Skilled managers should hold fewer stocks [Institutional Investor]

Machine learning for investors: a primer [Alpha Architect]

Blue skies ahead for John Malone's LiLAC Group [Barrons]

Benedict Evans on the future of cars [EconTalk]

On the characteristics of aggregators [Stratechery]

Elon Musk versus the haters [Institutional Investors]

The new world of monopoly? What about flying? [Marginal Revolution]

Amazon makes up 43% of all online sales [Inc]

Millennials are moving to the suburbs, buying big SUVs [Bloomberg]

Media companies are finally getting serious about data and targeted advertising [Adweek]

Shopify is an excellent business [Tom Tunguz]

A negative piece on Shopify [Citron Research]

What We're Reading ~ 8/23/17

New book from Bridgewater's Ray Dalio, Principles: Life and Work [Ray Dalio]

What is and isn't a moat [Johnson Inv]

Always invert [Above the Market]

The stereo speaker company giving sight to self-driving cars [SF Chronicle]

The internal combustion engine is not dead yet [NYTimes]

Is Tesla (TSLA) really a disruptor? And why the answer matters [HBR]

Chill: robots won't take all our jobs [Wired]

TripAdvisor (TRIP) can fly higher [Barrons]

The incredible shrinking Sears (SHLD) [NYTimes]

Amazon vs Maersk: the clash of titans shaking the container industry [Platts]

Jack Ma (BABA) is ahead of Jeff Bezos in grocery store ambitions [Bloomberg]

How Softbank (SFTBY) is reshaping global tech [The Information]

How Baidu (BIDU) will win China's AI race, and maybe the world's [Wired]

Quantum computing comes of age [Alphr]

Your brain on money [A Wealth of Common Sense]

What We're Reading ~ 5/3/17

The Innovator's Dilemma: When New Technologies Cause Great Firms to Fail [Christensen]

Warren Buffett's money managers Combs and Weschler speak [Yahoo Finance]

The new moats [Greylock]

Staying competitive as the world changes [Collaborative Fund]

A look at Seritage Growth Properties [Barrons]

Profile of Fidelity's Will Danoff [FT]

How Trump's pick for top Antitrust cop may shape competition [NYTimes]

Big name food brands lose battle of the grocery aisle [WSJ]

Thoughts on retailer L Brands [Intrinsic Investing]

Is the lingerie market on the verge of another disruption? (possible NSFW image) [Business of Fashion]

Amazon strategy teardown: building new business pillars [CB Insights]

UnderArmour tripped up in its run to become the world's next sneaker giant [Qz]

CEO pay is out of control [Fortune]

Apple's China problem [Stratechery]

With $6.2 billion spectrum spree, DISH's Charlie Ergen buys himself options [Bloomberg]

Can Facebook fix its own worst bug? [NYTimes]

Dyson is the Apple of Appliances [NYTimes]

Elon Musk's 2017 TED talk interview [YouTube]

Elon Musk's Recommended Reading List

If you haven't noticed before, on the right sidebar of the website we've catalogued various recommended reading lists from top investors.  Many of these investors have recommended expanding your horizons beyond just books on investing.

So this time around we're taking a look at a recommendations from an entrepreneur.  Elon Musk is the founder of electric car company Tesla (TSLA), space exploration company SpaceX, and he also previously co-founded online payments firm PayPal (PYPL).

Here are books Elon Musk has recommended over the years, as well as books he said shaped him into who he is today.


Elon Musk's Recommended Reading List

  Zero to One: Notes on Startups, or How to Build the Future by Peter Thiel

  Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies by Nick Bostrom

  Merchants of Doubt by Naomi Orestes and Erik M. Conway

  Structures: Or Why Things Don't Fall Down by J.E. Gordon

  Nikola Tesla Biographies: Musk didn't specify which one but there's The Tesla Autobiography as well as Tesla: Inventor of the Electrical Age by W. Bernard Carlson

  The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin

  Benjamin Franklin: An American Life by Walter Isaacson

  Einstein: His Life and Universe by Walter Isaacson

  Howard Hughes: His Life and Madness by Donald L. Barlett and James B. Steele

  Ignition!: An Informal History of Liquid Rocket Propellants by John D. Clark  


Musk has also recommended various fiction books such as The Foundation Trilogy by Isaac Asimov, as well as The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy by Douglas Adams, and The Lord of the Rings by J.R.R. Tolkien.


If you're looking for more investing-focused books, be sure to check out Charlie Munger's recommended reading list as well as Seth Klarman's favorite books.

Jim Chanos Still Short Tesla & Caterpillar

Noted short seller Jim Chanos of hedge fund Kynikos Associates just spoke with CNBC about

Chanos confirmed he's still short Tesla (TSLA) amid rumors that the Model 3 is delayed with production/deliveries.  "Never a dull moment in Tesla land," Chanos said.

"I'm dumbfounded that the board would go ahead with this deal (with SolarCity (SCTY)).  They're growing into a business they don't need to grow into. They're going to pretty much double their cash burn by taking it on, it just makes no sense." Chanos's firm believes SolarCity is an insolvency ex-the deal. 

He also mentioned how Caterpillar's (CAT) CEO was departing.  When asked if he's still short, Chanos said, "Yeah, the fundamentals in our view have not yet changed, we haven't seen any evidence of it."

Chanos also pointed out that the China real estate bubble still hasn't happened yet (popped) so that's still ahead of us, he says. 

We'll post up the video of the interview once it's released.  Be sure to also check out CNBC's interview with David Tepper from yesterday, as well as their conversation with Carl Icahn.

Jim Chanos Still Short Valeant, Alibaba, Tesla, SolarCity

At the Sohn Conference in New York today, Kynikos Associates' founder Jim Chanos appeared on CNBC to talk about what he's seeing in the markets lately (stay tuned for our full Sohn Conference notes later on).   Here are some takeaways:


- Still short Alibaba Group (BABA) with his bearish China bet

- Notes that some hedge funds charging 2/20 that generate 8% return will only give their investors a 4-5% return - is that worth paying for?

-  Still short Valeant (VRX) after originally shorting in 2014; thinks it's still not cheap and argues people are using valuation metrics that aren't right.  Doesn't think the company is trading at 3x earnings like Bill Ackman suggested recently.  Chanos: "Valeant was genius at gaming the system. That game is over."

- Cheniere Energy (LNG): Says he agrees that the contracts are money good, but the company's cost estimates are too low.  "You're paying a ridiculous price for 2020 cashflows compared to any other energy play you can buy today."  Asks how profitable can the plants operate and at what capital cost?

- Short Elon Musk: betting against Tesla (TSLA) and SolarCity (SCTY) still.  Sees flood of executives leaving TSLA as a negative sign.  Since the company can't really make money selling a $100,000 car, how are they going to do so selling a $35000 car (upcoming Model 3)?  Feels TSLA will need to raise money eventually.  Thinks SCTY gets in financial trouble in 2016.

We'll post video of his appearance if/when it becomes available.

Jim Chanos Short Cheniere Energy, Caterpillar, Solar City & More: Interview

Noted short seller Jim Chanos, founder of Kynikos Associates recently appeared on CNBC to share his thoughts.

During the interview, he revealed a new short position: Cheniere Energy (LNG).  We've highlighted how Carl Icahn went long LNG recently.  There are also numerous other prominent hedge funds long.

Chanos, on the other hand, has been negative on the liquefied natural gas space over the past six months, thinking it's a "looming disaster" because it's tied into Asia and that LNG demand isn't growing anymore.

He went on to say, "LNG has been seen as a unique animal because it's going to be U.S. based, they're opening its Sabine Pass later this year.  With the stock at 30 times 2020 earnings, with the upside coming from a glutted market, we think the risk/reward in this, given where other LNG plays are in Australia and elsewhere, is just completely out of whack."

Chanos noted he's still short Caterpillar (CAT) but has covered his Joy Global (JOYG) short.  He argues CAT is trading at a rich multiple relative to its peers and that the company isn't letting on just how bad things are out there.

Chanos is also negative on pretty much everything in the PC chain.  He argues that "the value in the hardware chain gets competed away" as the products are commoditized.  He's short Hewlett Packard (HPQ) and some PC manufacturers in Asia.  He's hedged this by being long Apple (AAPL) with better growth and products.

He called Tesla (TSLA) "silly" as it trades on 2025 earnings that's become a momentum and concept stock. Regarding other Elon Musk companies, he thinks Solar City (SCTY) is the most problematic.

On China, Chanos continues to be concerned.  He says that "one of the worries we've always had was they were going to lose control of their currency ... that's why I think the markets took a real shudder in August."  That said, he argued that the US is the country "least affected by what's happening in China."

Lastly, Chanos also said cybersecurity is one of the few areas of growth.

Embedded below are videos from Chanos' interview:

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For more from this short seller, be sure to also check out another recent Jim Chanos interview.

What We're Reading ~ 9/2/15

Valeant Pharmaceuticals (VRX): a detailed look inside a dangerous story [AZ Value]

Thoughts on shorting [Fritz Investments]

When to deploy capital [Aleph Blog]

A look at Ed Borgato's process [Richard Chignell]

Analysis of Liberty Global's Latin American assets (LILA) [Clark Street Value]

The China growth story is now broken [Salient Partners]

The Fed is set to make a dangerous mistake [FT]

A roadmap for a world without drivers [Alex Rubalcava]

How Tesla will change the world [Wait But Why]

The FCC imposes Netflix's broadband policy [WSJ]

An internet mortgage provider reaps the rewards [NYTimes]

Lurking problems with exchange traded funds [Zero Hedge]

Market plunge provides harsh lessons for ETF investors [Barrons]

Mexico's economy was supposed to soar; it's starting to flop [Washington Post]

Hotels fight back against sites like Expedia and Priceline [NYTimes]

Is Silicon Valley in another bubble and what could burst it? [Vanity Fair]

What We're Reading ~ 6/10/15

Focus on the key variables of an investment [Base Hit Investing]

Bias from overconfidence [Farnam Street]

Robert Shiller: things are overvalued [Zero Hedge]

The most important concepts in behavioral economics [StockTwits]

A pitch on Charter/Time Warner Cable [Value Venture]

A look at Precision Castparts [Jnvestor]

Why did John Malone invest in Lions Gate? [Punch Card]

On the looming rental crisis in the US [SoberLook]

Weak consumer spending: the canary in the bear market coal mine [Mauldin]

How Tesla will change the world [Wait But Why]

The state of Chinese social media in 2015 [AdAge]

Why China is blowing an equity bubble [FT]

Xiaomi, China's new phone giant, takes aim at world [WSJ]

Coal woes are spreading but it still has fans [Economist]

Caesars: a private equity gamble in Vegas gone wrong [Fortune]

On the truly exceptional business [Value Investing World]

Japan's economy grows faster than estimated [Bloomberg]

Apple is the new king of bonds [Bloomberg]

What Twitter can be [lowercase capital]

Protections for late investors can inflate start-up valuations [NYTimes]

Jim Chanos at SALT Conference: Royal Dutch Shell, Chevron, Petrobras, NuSkin, Tesla

At the Skybridge Alternatives (SALT) Conference in Las Vegas, short seller Jim Chanos of Kynikos Associates sat down with Bloomberg's Stephanie Ruhle to talk about markets as well as some of his past and current short positions.  He mentioned NuSkin, Tesla, Petrobras and talked about other oil plays in general.

*Update: He's now delivering his presentation at SALT: short oil integrators.  One of his slides entitled "Brazil: risk masquerading as opportunity."  Sums up Petrobras as: "lying, cheating, and stealing."  He says he's short Royal Dutch Shell.  He's also short Chevron (CVX) due to LNG problems, among other things.

Embedded below is the video of Chanos' interview at SALT: